Feb 11, 2008
Clinton/Obama Texas debate scheduled for Austin February 21
Categories: Politics and Elections
Written By: Shawn Williams
Gromer Jeffers, Jr. and the Dallas Morning News report that the Obama and Clinton campaigns have agreed the particulars on a debate in Texas. According to Jeffers (click here for full story), The Texas Democratic Party and the Lyndon B. Johnson Foundation will host the debate. CNN will telecast the forum live from 7 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. The debate will also be telecast on Univision.
The New York Times quotes Obama’s Texas director Adrian Saenz as saying “We are pleased that Sen. Obama will have the opportunity to debate in Texas, and that it will air on Univision, ensuring a wide and diverse audience.” A Houston debate that was planned at one time is now in doubt.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:40 am
NEWS FLASH !
Hillary Was AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964
While a Republican and ‘Goldwater Girl’
I know and appreciate that Barack Obama has taken the high road, but as a black man it is important to me that we all know the TRUTH about Hillary. Read This…..THEN SPREAD THE WORD !!!!
A March 12, 2007 article written by acclaimed Washington columnist Robert Novak sheds a very revealing light on the true sentiment of Hillary Clinton during the peak of the Civil Rights Movement. Clinton recently was found to have minimized the great and monumental strides taken by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. by stating that it was Lyndon B. Johnson, then president, who should receive the credit for the civil rights progress including the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
In an attempt to attract black support Hillary Clinton regularly shares her ‘civil rights experience’ during every speech given to black audiences. Novak writes of one such speech at Selma’s First Baptist Church on the 42nd anniversary of the ‘bloody Sunday’ freedom march there, where Sen. Clinton declared: ‘As a young woman, I had the great privilege of hearing Dr. King speak in Chicago. The year was 1963. My youth minister from our church took a few of us down on a cold January night to hear [King]. . . . And he called on us, he challenged us that evening to stay awake during the great revolution that the civil rights pioneers were waging on behalf of a more perfect union.’ But Novak’s article states that there’s a big problem with her statement.
The fact is, in 1963, not only was Hillary Clinton a republican, but she was also a staunch supporter of republican Senator Barry Goldwater, well known as a segregationist and one of the most vocal senators adamently against the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which is why he lost in his presidential bid to Lyndon B. Johnson. Novak writes ‘…how then could she be a ‘Goldwater Girl’ in the next year’s presidential election?’ He continues, ‘…she described herself in her memoirs as ‘an active Young Republican’ and ‘a Goldwater girl, right down to my cowgirl outfit.’
Novak adds, ‘As a politically attuned honor stu dent, she must have known that Goldwater was one of only six Republican senators who joined Southern Democratic segregationists opposing the historic voting rights act of 1964 inspired by King. Hillary headed the Young Republicans at Wellesley College. The incompatibility of those two positions of 40 years ago was noted to me (Novak) by Democratic old-timers who were shocked by Sen. Clinton’s temerity in pursuing her presidential candidacy.’ Novak adds, ‘What Hillary Clinton said at Selma is significant because it betrays her campaign’s panicky reaction to the unexpected rise of Sen. Obama as a serious competitor for the Democr a tic nomination.
Clinton’s plans were transformed by the advent of Obama, an African-American threatening the hard allegiance of black voters forged by Bill Clinton. On one hand, the Clinton campaign has attacked Obama and his supporters. On the other hand, she has sought to solidify her civil rights credentials.
While Clinton was re-inventing her past, her road to the White House is not going as planned. Instead of a steady procession to coronation at the Denver convention, she is involved in a real struggle against credible o pponents led by Obama. No wonder she and her handlers were tempted to imply the existence long ago of a young lady in Chicago’s suburbs who never really existed.’
We greatly appreciate Mr. Novak’s findings which bring one main thought to mind. Wake up Black America! DON’T BE FOOLED ! The fact is, despite her falsehoods, Hillary was AGAINST the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that Dr. Martin Luther King died for. As a ‘Goldwater Girl’ she was actually even against Lyndon B. Johnson, the very person she now gives the credit to for Dr. King getting to the mountaintop. She has worked extremely hard to hide many truths about her past, including ordering that her 92 page college thesis that she wrote at Wellesley College be ’sealed’ and unavailable to the public, an order forced upon the college by Bill Clinton while president, although all senior thesis’ at Wellesley have been available for public reading for over 100 years, except one….Hillary Rodham Clinton’s.
Reports have stated that information in her ’secret thesis’ could be the ‘Swift Boat’ ammo to be used by the Republican Party against her should she become the nominee. (read more about ’secret thesis’ at MSNBC)
In addition to re-inventing her past, the most obvious new Billary Clinton strategy is to use ‘Token Negroes’ like BET Founder Bob John son , Tavis Smiley, and Magic Johnson to name a few, to attack and discredit Barack Obama, a tactic which many blacks find additionally offensive, calling these black Clinton cronies ’sell-outs’. Spread the word….share the facts. The Clinton’s have been conning the black community for a long time and are NOT what they claim to be. I bet they go home at night, pour some expensive wine, kick their feet up and just laugh like crazy about what big black suckers we are. But now, it’s time to prove them wrong !
February 12th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Sebastian,
I agree with you that they are distorting Hillary’s past and they are trying to portray her as something that she was not at the time. There is no indication that Hillary Clinton was any different that here conservative parents, right down to her “cowgirl outfit.”
I will however give her the benefit of the doubt. But like Obama and his post issues, Hillary should come out and be honest. Maybe they’ll say she embellished her views to make herself seem “more segregationist” like they have done with Obama. (saying he over stated his past drug use).
This shouldn’t go unchallenged, but if she tells the truth of the matter, I’m willing to let her make it on this one.
February 20th, 2008 at 9:24 am
Sebastian makes some very good points about HRC, and heaven only knows how much “back-dooring” she will do to the Af-Am community if she were to be elected. I am very surprised to read that Tavis Smiley (who professes to be a christian) and Maj Johnson, are bashing Mr. Obama in any way…(wow !!!)….we must support the candidate who will make new changes and move away from all of the same “old school” ideas on how to run this country….A generation of “new schoolers” are coming up behind many of us, and want bigger and better things for US all…..McCain, Clinton regimes will do nothing, but, bring about the same ol’ same ol’ HA !!!
February 21st, 2008 at 10:02 am
If you want to bring up the college past then you have got to include Obama in those revelations. A cocaine using, pot smoking Malcolm X wannabe. You may not want to go there. He couldn’t handle the stress in school - he’ll fold under the pressure of the White House. Obama has no idea what he will do in the White House. He just wants “change” for the Black man. Period.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pm
This blog brings into clear relief what issue is really important to black voters–that Obama is a black and therefore that every black citizen should vote for him. This is racism at its most elemental level. Blacks certainly are within their rights to vote for Obama simply because he is black and will obviously represent them–as should whites be to vote for a white on the basis of race. The questions that arise as a result, though, but which for some reason seem not to be recognized by either the media or the voting public as a whole, are 1. Why are the racist, discriminatory, prejudicial statements by black voters not being taken as racist, though similar comments by whites woud be, and 2. Why and how can non-black voters support Obama? The answers prove that reverse discrimination is rampant in the U.S. and that white voters, not black, are willing to support and accept a “colorblind society”.
February 21st, 2008 at 5:00 pm
I.C. Clearly,
How do you explain the thousands and thousands of black candidates black folks have voted for over the years? How would you explain the lack of support by African-Americans for Clarence Thomas, Alan Keys and the rest of the crew?
That is a ridiculous accusation that you make, but one that is unfortunately shared by many.
February 21st, 2008 at 8:16 pm
It’s funny how a black person can trash talk other black persons for supporting a white candidate. I don’t think Magic Johnson or any of the others mentioned need any favors from the Clintons, or the Democratic party, or anyone else. I’m sure they are all intelligent enough to make their own decisions without another black person trying to bully them in to voting against their conscience. This isn’t the 1960’s or 70’s. It sounds like there are quite a few black persons out there that are still racist. Whether or not Hillary Clinton supported the civil rights movement 40 years ago should have no relevance to what you think about who she is today. People change and what they believe changes over their life time. Who is she today and who was she 5 or 10 years ago? Look at who she is and has been more recently before labeling Hillary Clinton a racist. It just occurred to me how ironic it is for a white racist to portray themselves as a better person by calling another person a black racist.
February 21st, 2008 at 9:39 pm
I wonder why so many black Americans believe Obama is going to do anything for them. I haven’t heard him mention one thing he was going to do for the black population. I haven’t heard any thing about what he thinks about gang problems and what he plans on doing about that and there influence on the moral code of young persons. Many of whom think they would be the lowest of the low in society if they snitch. Even if some one was beaten, murdered, or gang raped. A better economy isn’t going to fix that problem. No matter how good the economy is there will always be poor people of all races and nationalities. Why isn’t he saying anything about the multiple genocides going on in the African continent? Seeing that his father is from Kenya, you would think he would be concerned about that and speak out about it. He says he isn’t part of the political establishment. He’s been the Senator of Illinois since 1996 and he was in the Illinois Senate prior to that, how is that not part of the political establishment. What about the Latino’s voting? He doesn’t seem to be to concerned about the immigration issue or the struggles that they face. He says he will give more people access to health care and create more jobs. Any one can say that. He can’t do any of those things, that’s the job of the House and the Senate. What has he actually done in Illinois where he is a Senator? Do they have more people covered by health care because he is a Senator there? Has he created more jobs there? What kind of jobs is he going to create, more low paying not enough to live on service industry jobs? Just how is he going to create these jobs? The unions are supporting him, but why? I haven’t heard him say one thing about ending NAFTA, CAFTA, or any of the other Free Trade Agreements with China, Vietnam, and many other countries he have Free Trade Agreements with. He is just another politician feeding us a line of BS. Once again even though it sounds too good to be true and it is, people still buy in to it. I guess that’s why there are so many scam artists out there and why they are so successful.
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:03 am
That hillary Clinton comment was so taken out of context. What she said was she respects Martin Luther King Jr. He started the civil rights movement which made the people with legislative power took notice. She was basically saying, president Johnson, passed the law that racial descrimination is wrong. So by saying that, she is saying, “I too will be willing to pass laws for equality.” She implied that she would be the leader to pass such laws. But Obama campaign used the race card and made it out to be “clinton thinks MLK is unimportant.” That is the stupidest thing ever. Anyone with a mind can easily tell what Hillary was trying to say. MLK started a movement, but the movement was put into law by a president. That is what HIllary basically said, and that is actually the truth.
Also calling black voters sellouts for voting for hillary is racist in itself. Maya Angelou voted for Hillary and she is one of the smartest Black woman in America.
February 22nd, 2008 at 6:28 am
I voted early and I voted after I prayed about it on the third day of early voting here in TEXAS! If I could ask Barack Obama some questions they would be:
1. Where was your Grandfather Obama while my Grandfather was pulling men of every race and color off of burning ships in Pearl Harbor?
2. Where were your Fathers while mine was serving on a Naval ship?
3. Where were any of your family members while my Father-In-Law was fighting for our country in Korea?
I already know the answers, because Muslims do not fight for our country, just ask Mohammad Ally. George Forman has always been my favorite boxer!
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:24 am
To Shawn Williams
As far as explaining “the thousands and thousands of black candidates black folks have voted for over the years” it’s easy. They did it for the same reason; because the black candidates were black. Concerning “Clarence Thomas, Alan Keys and the rest of the crew”–the Clarence Thomas issue was, in the grand scheme of things, a long time ago when both blacks and whites were more confrontational, a lot of the time for good reason. Whites felt that “equality” was being shoved down their throats and blacks felt that no one who wasn’t of color could possibly give them a fair deal. As I remember it (and I do remember it, personally) Clarence Thomas was disliked by whites not only because he was black, but also because of his stance on some other issue (women’s rights? I don’t remember). Black voters considered him not black enough; to them he was an Oreo in whom they had no confidence because they said that he had “sold out” his race in order to get where he was. Not being a political historian, I can’t speak to your question about the others. The situation today is different. Blacks have made unbelievable strides in all areas of life in the U.S. and most whites (note that I say most) seem to have accepted the idea of a “color blind” society, judging others by their merits, not their color. There are certainly still places where this is not true, but I’m talking main-stream here. Which brings us to what Tyrone said. Right on, Tyrone! The problem with Obama is that he is running solely on charisma; nobody knows what he really stands for except that he stands for change. What kind of change, Mr. Obama? Give us some specifics! Until he does, this will remain a contest of identity, not issues, and blacks who keep playing the race card in support of Obama are not only hurting their candidate’s cause, but stirring the pot of racism. If we truly believe that “all mankind is created equal” and deserves equal rights and treatment, then we all–including Oprah Winfrey–need to stop reveling in and pointing out our differences.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:37 pm
I agree where were all of Obama’s relatives and friends
when mine were out there fighting for a free America since World War I. I am hispanic and proud of it too! I am Hillary all the way! And believe me we do not give up.
February 22nd, 2008 at 5:08 pm
1. Where was your Grandfather Obama while my Grandfather was pulling men of every race and color off of burning ships in Pearl Harbor?
2. Where were your Fathers while mine was serving on a Naval ship?
3. Where were any of your family members while my Father-In-Law was fighting for our country in Korea?
I already know the answers, because Muslims do not fight for our country, just ask Mohammad Ally. George Forman has always been my favorite boxer!
Tonya, I was Just wondering where was
anyone of the following people Grandfather ..The Bush’s, The Clintons, or any other President past or Present president or person running now..wonder where were they also during the time your Grandfather and others suffered?
February 28th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Obama is a good speaker but everytime he gives a speech his message changes. In TX he criticizes Hillary because he says she has been spending too much time criticizing Bush and McCain, and I though about it, and realized that’s not what Hillary has been doing. obama is the one that his been focusing on criticizing Bush and McCain all week, and he is saying something different in TX.. So I don’t trust him. He is hard to criticize because of all this double-talk. seems like what Cons do. He is talented, but makes me uncomfortable, yet I like listening to him. He’s more like an actor.
One thing is for sure he says he’s Uniting us and bringing change we can believe in and I feel he is tearing us apart and sayiong nothing that makes me feel better.
Hillary may not be such a Big talker but I trust her to lead US, and if Obama says he’s bringing Republicans and Democrats together and he is both black and white, Christian and Muslim, Republican and Democrat, that’s too confusing to believe. With no record of real accomplishments I don’t have faith in Obama to lead the USA. With Hillary I feel she will help lead the USA to a better life and does not make promises she won’t keep.
February 28th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I feel bullied by people who are “liberal” but are for Obama. This seems very wierd and as a Democrat I have never felt bullied to vote for a candidate. So when Obama talks of Hope, and faith, and Change you can believe in I have to scratch my head and say, I’m voting for Hillary. She’s someone I like and I like what she has done for America. One guy called me Gay for wanting to vote for Hillary. I wanted to go to blows over that. Obama is a wierd dude.
February 28th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
You’re not kidding Dude. I’m voting Hillary and feel like I have to keep it secret, and if I say I want to hear her speak, it’s like I am letting down the guys. I think the media is afraid to criticize him because the writer may be accused of racism. People say, Obama is the real deal, the real deal what? I have no idea what he will do as President and I too feel less safe as a Democrat and uncomfortable by this guy than ever before. I’d rather vote for an experienced woman than a guy that gets other guys to Bully.
I’m glad you said what I was feeling first because Obama makes me uncomfortable and I was having a hard time deciding why. It’s because of all his talented double-talk. I hope Hillary wins in TX and Ohio and wipes that “winning streak” grin off Obama’s face. Just because he’s a man does not mean I have to vote for him.